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25: Straight But Not Narrow

25: Straight But Not Narrow

“There were many straight people who actively campaigned against Measure 9. We relied heavily upon the non-gay community to go canvass and talk to voters. I’m glad so many straight people were able to go into places and handle that for us when a lot of us couldn’t do it. I think it’s important we thank these folks for their public support and activity.”  ~ No on 9 activist Sharon Hill, interviewed by Pat Young

In the early 1990s, many Oregonians did not realize they knew a gay or lesbian person. Bonnie Tinker, a lesbian activist whose organization Love Makes a Family was a leader in community education during and after the No on 9 campaign, reflected on this in her conversation with historian Pat Young. Around the state there were “at least tens and often times hundreds of people who suddenly were coming out to their friends” along with “straight people who realized that sexuality was a real political issue.”  

Ballot Measure 9 mobilized the LGBTQ community like never before. But it also activated a huge cross-section of straight people.

Isadore, in cap, was one of the thousands of allies who stepped forward to stand with LGBTQ Oregonians; he spent his final days on the Walk for Love & Justice. Linda Kliewer photo.

“In Oregon, the campaign was strengthened by people and organizations all over the state who were not directly affiliated with the No on 9 Campaign but were determined to do the difficult and loving work of trying to educate ordinary people about a group of ordinary citizens within their midst, those who call themselves lesbian and gay.”  

Suzanne Pharr, in her 1993 essay about Measure 9 (reprinted in Transformation)

Straight But Not Narrow 

“Those buttons, ‘Straight But Not Narrow’ – I was never going to wear one,” says community and business leader Eric Friedenwald-Fishman. “There was a very big thing in those days, ‘I wouldn’t want to be thought of as gay.’”  

Wearing those buttons could reinforce that prejudice. On the other hand, they could be an important form of solidarity, of making visible that it wasn’t just gay people who supported LGBTQ rights.  

Many straight folks joined the No on 9 struggle regardless of the risk of being perceived as LGBTQ. (And it was a risk. Homophobic hate crimes were soaring and being fired or denied housing for being gay was perfectly legal in most of the state.) 

Eric Ward, for whom the risk was compounded by being the target of racist discrimination and violence as a Black man, says of his involvement with the LGBTQ community in the fight against Measure 9, “I would have done almost anything for that movement.”

“People would call me homophobic slurs for years afterwards, in rural areas where I travelled to speak, accusing me of running the secret homosexual agenda. I considered it a point of pride.” 

Eric K. Ward

Others saw the value of speaking as an identifiably straight person, making it clear to voters that defeating Measure 9 was not just up to the gay community. 

“We had to give them a way in.” 

“We wanted the public to see that a heterosexual person took it as seriously as a gay person,” No on 9 campaign manager Peggy Norman, a lesbian, told historian Pat Young about the decision to feature Ellen Lowe as a primary campaign spokesperson. On the staff with Ecumenical Ministries of Oregon, Ellen could “talk about religion and no one could take that piece away from her. We deliberately chose someone who the public could hear, to put our story out there. We had to give them a way in.” 

“When you open the door to the OCA and the OCA began to restrict who was going to participate in the democratic process, it was really an assault on everybody. Perhaps the best person, at that time, to articulate that kind of universal application of what was happening was a straight person.”  

Ellen Lowe, interviewed by historian Pat Young

Some queer activists saw the prominence of straight spokespeople in the campaign as an effort to squelch or sanitize LGBTQ visibility in the effort. This was a source on ongoing tension –should the campaign be about increasing acceptance of gay people and reducing homophobia? Or should it focus more narrowly on opposing the writing of discrimination into the state constitution, without asking people to “approve” of homosexuality?  

Many of the straight folks who got involved tried to do both – reduce homophobia by modeling an empathetic and humanizing relationship with gay people and appeal to everyone’s self-interest in the larger case against discrimination. 

Fighting for Our Lives, the short video created by Elaine Velasquez and Barbara Bernstein as an organizing tool, featured many of these voices. 

Straight ally Jeannette Pai-Espinosa (third from left) between out lesbians Kathleen Saadat (second from left) and Donna Redwing. From Fighting for Our Lives.

The Gays Now, Who’s Next? 

The German pastor Martin Niemoller was often quoted in those years. After spending seven years in Nazi concentration camps for speaking out against Hitler, he said, “First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out — because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out — because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out — because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.” 

This was the cautionary case many of the straight speakers made in Fighting for Our Lives and other educational outreach.  

“I don’t tell people I’m heterosexual because I don’t think it’s any of their business but I’ve always very clearly been an ally to the gay and lesbian community and I do civil rights work. So I’m probably a good target for someone to say, ‘Look, she’s lesbian, she works for the Governor, she shouldn’t be there.’” [Measure 9 would have required the firing of gay people in public employment.] 

Jeannette Pai-Espinosa, at that time director of affirmative action for the Governor, in Fighting for Our Lives  

The video also features two clergymen from rural communities. Paul LaRue says, “I will not be able to put my arm around my male friend [without people saying] ‘Hey, you must be gay’. I know two women who go shopping together all the time, people will say, ‘Something’s wrong with them.’” John Sandusky says, “As some point in the future I could find myself labeled part of some unacceptable group in society.” Portland Pastor Matt Hennessee says, “The African American community can’t see this without asking, ‘How far down on the list [of OCA targets] am I?’” 

An Intersectional Analysis

In a tribute to national LGBTQ movement leader Urvashi Vaid after her death, The New Yorker wrote: “Vaid’s ideas often had to do with the interconnectedness of different causes. She understood and articulated the concept of intersectionality before the word had entered the language.” As an example, the writer cites a transcript of a 1994 conversation Urvashi had with AIDS activist Larry Kramer. 

“What if we tried to identify how [HIV] treatment issues connect with racism?” Vaid said. “It’s going to express itself differently in your life than in mine…. That’s the issue of reproductive choice. It was never about men should march with women because they support women. It was more that men should march for reproductive freedom because we’re marching against the power of the state to tell you and me what to do sexually…. If the state can say you can’t have an abortion, the state can say you can’t have sodomy.” 

Kramer replied, “I have to tell you that I never realized that.” 

Some of the straight allies active against Measure 9 articulated a similar analysis – based less on this could be bad for me than this is bad for everyone, bad for inclusive democracy. 

Kelley Weigel, for example, can be seen in the documentary Ballot Measure 9, out on the road with the Walk For Love & Justice, saying, “The OCA represents a much more fundamental threat to all of us. They have attacked reproductive rights. They have attacked affirmative action. That’s why I’m walking, even though I’m not a lesbian.” 

As she told friends and family in her letter asking them to support her on the 150-mile Walk, “I know you support me and care about the same things I do. The OCA represents a ‘retrovision’ on American life which excludes members of our diverse society. At this time of social and political uncertainty, it is more important than ever that we take a stand for human dignity to insure these rights remain central during public discourse.” 

Looking back 30 years, Kelley sees the tensions embedded in intersectional work as one of the primary lessons for today. “We need to do two things simultaneously,” she says – “to lift up leadership from within targeted communities, while embracing the truth that it takes all of us” to defend and achieve inclusive democracy.

Looking in the Mirror 

For many at that time, Measure 9 called the question: what kind of people are we? The Rev. Rodney Page, executive director of Ecumenical Ministries of Oregon and another frequent speaker on behalf of No on 9, closes the Fighting for Our Lives video with the statement: “We have to tell people like the OCA and their ilk, ‘Stop it! This is enough! We don’t want to see this kind of bigotry in our community.’” 

For some allies who understood the case against bigotry but weren’t too comfortable or familiar with gay people, that meant facing their own homophobia. For other allies, it meant looking at their own privilege relative to LGBTQ folks. 

Anne Sweet, who grew up Black in the South during the civil rights movement, remembers the late 1980s as a time when “I was learning more stuff about oppression.” With the passage of the OCA’s first anti-gay ballot measure in 1988, “Something happened in my mind and brain,” she says.

“It reminded me we that all hang out in the camps of the oppressor and the oppressed. I realized the places I was an oppressor, as an adult to children, to disabled people in my able-bodiedness.”  

Anne Sweet

“As a perceived heterosexual woman,” Anne says, “I was given the role to be oppressive to gay and lesbian people. And I didn’t want that role. I didn’t want to look at what I knew about gay and lesbian people and how I treated them, and how as a perceived heterosexual person that I held myself as deserving better treatment.  

“So I got involved, much to my ex-husband’s disapproval.” 

“We’ve Got a Lot of Work to Do” 

Thalia Zepatos, a straight ally who came on as deputy campaign manager for the last crucial months, remembers a life-changing day when she was driving across town with her car stacked to the brim with No on 9 lawn signs and literature.  

“As a progressive activist, I had joined efforts to fight racism in Portland. Now the OCA measure pulled another layer of veneer off the surface of our progressive city,” Thalia says. 

“I stopped at a traffic light and in the next lane was a pickup truck with construction equipment in the back, and one of those really crude, nasty OCA signs with the figures of two men on the side of their truck.  

“These guys looked over at me, and at the contents of my car, and started yelling at me, taunting me, calling me a dyke and talking about faggots. I started yelling back. After they continued to provoke me, I actually got out of my car, like ‘Do you want to fight?’ 

“Meanwhile cars behind both vehicles were honking, and finally, the pickup truck took off. But it would have been terrible if they had gotten out of their vehicle! 

“And then it hit me. I’d been moving around the city thinking people were basically decent – until someone thought I was a lesbian! Look at the vitriol that’s just been directed at me, just for being seen as a lesbian.”

“I just couldn’t forget that moment. It was so transformative. I felt like: I’ve really got work to do here. We’ve got a lot of work to do in our state.” 

Thalia Zepatos

Thalia Zepatos went on to train generations of LGBTQ advocates and advise numerous campaigns for LGBTQ rights, including serving as the chief message architect for the campaign that secured the freedom to marry nationwide. Watch for more of her insights in October, and read more from Eric Friedenwald-Fishman, Kelley Weigel, and Anne Sweet. 

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As they say on The Moth Radio Hour, “Moth stories are true as remembered and affirmed by the storyteller.”  Read more about the benefits and challenges of historical memory.  

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A Note on Historical Memory

The Moth Radio Hour ends every show with this disclaimer: “Moth stories are true as remembered and affirmed by the storyteller.” That can be said as well about the stories and editorial choices presented on No on 9 Remembered.

If you were around during Measure 9, you may remember different things, or remember things differently, from the storytellers and editors on this website. We all have our own point of view and anything recollected from 30 years later is inherently unreliable if accuracy is your standard. 

It’s important that we don’t read these stories as gospel. But even if memory is unreliable, it still tells us an important story.  

We asked longtime activist and oral historian Sandy Polishuk for help with this conundrum. In the introduction to her book about political radical and labor journalist Julia Ruuttila (1907-1991), Sandy writes: 

“Memories are creations, they are not necessarily an accurate reflection of what happened. In her research on eyewitness testimony, Elizabeth Loftus has concluded that ‘postevent information cannot only enhance existing memories but also change a witness’s memory and even cause nonexistent details to become incorporated into a previously acquired memory.’ Over time, she tells us, we may be unable to distinguish between what we ourselves experienced and what we have been told. Surely most of us have ‘memories’ that in truth are stories told to us about our early childhoods, which we ‘remember’ as experiences, perhaps because the story was told so often and was about our favorite subject, ourselves.” 

Sandy says there are other reasons interviewees may not tell the whole truth. They might be embarrassed or ashamed of some of their past actions. They could fear hurting others. And of course, everyone has secrets. 

Italian oral historian Alessandro Portelli explains discrepancies in historical memories as “not caused by faulty recollections . . . but actively and creatively generated by memory and imagination in an effort to make sense of crucial events.” 

Our hope is that the stories in No on 9 Remembered contribute to the meaning-making still so necessary as we grapple with the crucial events of our present time, connected as they are to what we saw during Measure 9.  

References courtesy of Sandy Polishuk: 

  • Loftus, Elizabeth. Eyewitness Testimony. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1979.  pp. 55, 78.  
  • Portelli, Alessandro. The Death of Luigi Trastulli and Other Stories: Form and Meaning in Oral History. SUNY Series in Oral and Public History. Albany: State University of New York Press, 1991.  pp. 1-26.  
  • Polishuk, Sandy. Sticking to the Union: An Oral History of the Life and Times of Julia Ruuttila. Palgrave Studies in Oral History. New York: Palgrave Macmillan, 2003. pp 7-8. 

  

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20: PGMC Members Remember

Gary Coleman is a founding member and continuing leader with Portland Gay Men’s Chorus (PGMC). Longtime PGMC member Greg Friesen recently was honored with a “Legacy” award for participating in a record number of performances. Formed in 1980, PGMC was one of the first gay men’s choruses in the nation. While the Chorus shrank to fewer than 30 members during the heights of the AIDS crisis, today PGMC is a thriving arts organization comprised of over 125+ singers. With outreach an important part of their mission, PGMC became the first western gay performing group to tour China in the fall of 2018. 

This transcript of No on 9 Remembered’s conversation with Gary and Greg has been edited for clarity and length. 

Photo from PGMC website gallery

Starting the Chorus, Finding the Chorus

GARY:

I’m a founding member of the Chorus. I was music coordinator at Metropolitan Community Church (MCC) in 1980, and a member of my choir came to me. and said, I just saw the San Francisco Gay Men’s Chorus, and we need one here. I said, sure, you find me a director and we’ll do one. So he found a man named Mark Jones, and the three of us went out on a Sunday afternoon had several pictures of beer. We talked about what having a chorus would be like. I put an ad in the local newspaper and we had 12 people show up in the MCC basement. One of those people was Steve Fulmer, who became our first general manager and extraordinary leader of the Chorus for many, many years.  

The Chorus had our first performance at MCC on June 19, 1980. We had 20 people on stage, and then it grew from there. At the point when we became a legal organization, a nonprofit, we had to decide what to call ourselves, which was a question. We decided to follow the San Francisco model and put Gay in our name, which had some initial members leave, because of fear of discrimination or outing.  

We wanted to respect people’s journeys, so members were given options; up to a third of the Chorus were listed under an alias name or “Name Withheld” in the programs, including Greg. 

So that’s a good place to pass it off to Greg, but I’ll say one other thing – we had no idea that it would last this long, and be what it’s become. 

GREG:

I moved up to the Portland area in 1980. I was an elementary school teacher, so I had to be very closeted. You could still be dismissed for being gay, even though the Tigard-Tualatin school district where I taught was actually one of the more progressive districts. It was kind of like a don’t-ask-don’t-tell type of situation. 

I was living in town and I don’t know how I missed that first advertisement that Gary printed, because I would have been there from their first time, because I love, love singing. I would have been scared shitless, though, because of the fact that it was gay. 

It wasn’t so much the school district – they would have turned a blind eye. But it was the parents. There were many parents who were okay with it, even in that day. But most everybody was pretty much against gay people. 

But I just happened to go to a concert, I think it was the “Brothers Sing On” concert that I went to. I looked at that, thinking, Oh, my God, that’s fabulous! That is so fabulous! Should I? Should I? 

I was in all of the little choruses through grade school and middle school, and then in high school I was in the big Medford Senior High chorus. I love singing but I kind of got out of it, because that wasn’t my major in college and so you just didn’t do a lot of stuff that wasn’t connected directly to your major. But I missed it so much. 

And so I started singing and just thoroughly enjoyed it. But still, you know, terrified. Somebody was going to see me on stage. I kept telling myself, if they’re here at the concert they’re okay. I kept telling myself that, but it was still kind of a hard road for a while. 

When I stopped doing my name with an alias, it was basically through a printing mistake, but then I thought, Oh, my God, it’s 1990! whatever year it was. And it’s been my name listed in the program ever since. By that time my school district already had domestic partnership provisions. I wasn’t worried about being fired. But there still could be parents that could get real belligerent – real nasty about it. 

So I still remained closeted for a while at work but a little bit later I was rehearsing at MCC and there was a newspaper person there who was taking some pictures. I didn’t think too much about it, because I said, Oh, I’m in the background. Nobody will see me, I will just blend in. And then the next day – this was when newspapers were still out there, and they had society sections – they said Portland Gay Men’s Chorus rehearsed, and there was that picture like about 6 x 6 inches of three people, me included. And I thought, Well I guess if they don’t know, they know now!  

I walked into school, and one of the parents of one of students came up and said, Why didn’t you tell me you were in the Chorus? I’ve been wanting to see you guys for years! I said, Well, I’ll tell you when it’s our next concert and you can buy some tickets! 

I would I so look forward to Monday nights [when the Chorus met] when I could just go and drop all of my little defenses and shields. It was so different than going out on Saturday night to a gay bar, and all of that sort of stuff, because that was always, you know, a little drinking, a little sniffing, all of that sort of stuff – party, party, party! This was just a normal, everyday, walk in, see your friends, say hi – nothing fabricated about anything going around. It was just friends getting together to sing. 

The singing was so cathartic. I just enjoyed going so much. There was never anything that could really pull me away. It was my way to let myself be me – I was raised in an evangelical Christian home, so I could never be myself when I was home. I had nobody to relate to. But with the Chorus, it was just there. I could always count on friends being there on Monday night. You could let your hair down. 

Greg Friesen

Life & Death in the 1980s

GARY:  

We had grown to 105 members in our first two years. We sang at the first Gay Games in San Francisco in 1982 and at the West Coast Choral Festival with 13 other gay choruses. We were reading about this new “gay cancer” – and then we had our first death in 1983, Jim Schelot.  

And then we started singing memorial services. We sang The Rose, service after service after service after service. I cry every time I sang it, even today, I still do. 

Two other things happened at the same time. We started seeing our friends die in front of us in ways that I will never forget. We were at Benson High School and Richard Roth came in. We hadn’t seen him in a few months and he was just shriveled away, and I barely recognized him. At the same time there were protesters at the front door, bible thumping and telling us we were going to hell. And we were confronting that.  

As our friends continued to die, we got bomb threats. We were picketed at many locations. All of that was going on. The thing that kept me sane during that time was the Chorus. It was the place I could rejuvenate for the work that we had ahead of us. It was just a place that just kept us going. 

The other thing we were doing at the same time, especially in leadership positions, is figuring out how to balance our nonprofit status of not being “political” with needing to be political, needing to be out there. So we started doing outreach. We started reaching out and being more places, just so that we were more visible. It was one of the reasons we chose putting Gay in our name – whether they came to our concert or not, they were going to see the word.  

GREG:

They knew who we were! 

GARY:

And as Steve Fulmer used to say: Who could be afraid of a bunch of singers?  The Chorus was a place that just kept us going through all of those years.

The Impact of PGMC Performances

GREG:

I guess I just wanted to let everybody know that I was just a normal human being, that I didn’t have horns, that I didn’t chase all the boys – you know all those perceptions. I’m just a normal man who loves to sing in a chorus. I’m just normal, like the way I have to act around my family; they’re still rightwing conservative. But they look at me and see a normal man doing normal things like singing in a choir. 

I also do some square dancing. As a teacher, I got awards – all of that sort of stuff. And I think that’s really primary for me, that humanizing function that the chorus helps with at a time when there was all that talk that we’re all demon pedophiles. It’s my job to say I’m a normal human being. 

GARY:

I think of several things about the impact to our audience. Many of our members come from being in our audiences. They saw us they went: Oh, that’s me. I want to be there. It was an alternative to the bars 

I remember we were in the [southern Oregon] Rogue Valley. They had a new chorus there, and we were going to go support it. There was somebody with flyers, passing them out to people about us burning in hell and all that sort of stuff. We invited them to come in, and they came in, and they sat at the back. We were in a community college and as we listened to the other chorus sing, we saw this person moved to tears. And at the end they left their stack of pamphlets there, and did not distribute them any further. 

We sang at Portland Community College for several years. We would have protesters out front, and often we would invite them in. As long as they didn’t make a stir, come in and listen! We didn’t shy away from that, or make them wrong per se, even though we might disagree with their position. 

Gary Coleman

Believe it or not, we were last picketed in 2019 in Grants Pass. We had gone there in 2017. We never raise money for ourselves when we go on outreach. It’s always for a local community agency of their choosing. They chose a local organization called Hearts with a Mission that worked with street kids. It was a wonderful crowd – they loved us, and we raised $2,000. But the Hearts with a Mission board wouldn’t take the money because we’re gay. However, they went to the City Council a month or two later and asked for money! And somebody who was in our audience at that concert said, Hey, you just turned down money! They got rid of part of their board and their executive director, and they changed their mission. 

So back to 2019, they were once again the organization that got the money we raised, and they were sitting on the front row with their kids. A huge change! Then we went outside, with our host, and greeted the dozen or so protesters. So it doesn’t go away. 

But I think it is representative of our courage to be authentic. It’s just – this is who I am. Here we are. We’re singing. I’m sorry that’s a threat to you. We’re just doing it, in the face of their desire to legislate exclusion. 

1992: The We Sing Out!

GREG:

As soon as I saw that this stuff [from the OCA] was coming out, all of a sudden, I got this wrenching feeling in my stomach. I’ve been used to prejudice, but this was the first time that I had ever experienced a highly organized absolute hate campaign against me.  

Again, it just helped going to the Chorus. Because it was there, I was with my species, you know, my kind. We could commiserate together, and oh, not laugh about it, but make our jokes, and do whatever it took to make us feel like we were not spit on the bottom of somebody’s shoe. 

GARY:

To put some historical context into the timeframe around the We Sing Out! tour, which was really our action that we took together with Portland Lesbian Choir…. 

In January of ‘92 we were given the Metropolitan Human Relations Commission award for our work in diversity throughout the state. Then in March of ‘92 we did a mid-Valley tour to Corvallis and Eugene, then we sang at Artquake, and then we sang at the National Community Policing Convention in Portland. And then, right after we came back from the Sing Out tour, we sang at the Anne Frank World Exhibit, and then we sang in the Meier & Frank parade. 

What that says is that no matter where we sing, we are who we are. The impact is that simple. It’s much like Harvey Milk said: Come out, come out, come out so they know who you are. If they don’t know who you are, you’re this thing they’ll make up. 

I wanted to establish that context, because it is part of what we continue to do. 

But at that time, when we’re being attacked and called pedophiles, and sadomasochists, and all the other stuff they attached to us at the time – it really required courage to continue to do that. 

Gary Coleman

GREG:

An example from the school I worked at: I would wear a No on 9 button. And we had parents livid in the office saying, Why are they wearing those buttons that blah blah blah blah? The district stood up for us and said it’s free speech, as long as we weren’t expounding on anything. But we can wear buttons. And there were people who were really angry about that. 

I brought a whole shitload of buttons in. Everybody got them, and most everybody wore them. I respect the people who didn’t for various reasons; it didn’t necessarily mean they didn’t support it. Everybody has an opinion, but I’m going to express mine. 

GARY:

To expound a little bit on the We Sing Out! Tour, We went to Klamath Falls and Coos Bay via bus. We did have threats along the way, and had police follow us several places and escort us around. What I remember the most is Coos Bay. 

We came into this college campus on the bus, and there were probably a dozen or so picketers. 

They come in that size of group! They were waving their signs, and, you know, chanting whatever they were chanting. We just drove in, came in, and as usual, invited them in. A few did come in, and they held their signs up. It was a fairly full smaller auditorium. They were in the back, with their signs in the back, and once again – the same kind of thing happened. I saw people put down their signs during the concert. I saw some people leave during the concert, I saw some people stay, and some who were in tears, and actually thanked us for the concert. 

You can’t expect everyone to be instantly transformed. It’s not about that, but it’s about that visibility that’s consistent, and the message of love – which is what we always sing about – that cuts through. The power of music in itself cuts through. It resonates in here [the heart], not even just the words, but the impact of the music, of the sound.  

Then we went to Springfield on a separate excursion the following weekend. We were at the downtown theater. There were bomb threats; the police dealt with that behind the scenes, so we didn’t really have to deal with it. But most of us had driven down in our own cars and when we came out from the venue, someone had put gay porno with little things, like “Fags go home” or whatever other messages on them, on the windshields of the cars all around the theater. I looked at it and thought: Well, this kind of hot! [laughs] 

It was just: Go home! But look at this on your way! It was funny, ironic, weird, strange, and it was a sign of the times. People were confused. I laugh at it now. But it was kind of hateful at the time. 

GREG:

My hardest moment of the No on 9 campaign was when I was home in Medford, where I grew up, at my mom’s house. She wasn’t too technical with her computer. She wanted me to go through and check her emails and make sure that everything was okay. My heart just broke seeing there was an email message back from Lon Mabon, thanking her for her $10 donation. It just broke my heart. I never said anything to her but it just that was a lot of feeling during that time, anyway. Thank you. I will tear up if I talk anymore about it. Because I loved my mother dearly.  

Working with the Portland Lesbian Choir

GARY:

We did an initial fundraiser for them to get started. And we invited them on stage. We’ve shared many concerts on our stage, and on their stage. And of course the We Sing Out! Tour was really our first joint foray into what I would call activism.  

The women’s movement at the time, in my opinion, was much more of a separatist movement than it is now and working together initially was challenging on both sides. 

With PLC, it’s been a growing partnership over the years. We have shared office space occasionally. We’ve shared volunteers at the back of the Hall, and still do today. So there’s a lot of overlap but we really want to support the autonomy of their organization.  

At some points we’ve discussed forming an umbrella organization, which many choruses have done, and that may even come up in the future. 

In the early 90s around the time of Measure 9 we did adopt a mailing name called the Rose City Performing Arts so that people wouldn’t get “Gay” in their mail, and get found out. So in that time we did discuss it [the organizational umbrella idea]. 

The last two years at the Pride festival we have had an Arts Pavilion coordinated by our executive director, so all of the local arts groups – some of them performed on the stage, but they all had booths. PGMC and PLC shared the same booth, because we really serve similar audience. Our partnership is very strong. 

Visibility & Activism

GARY:

I’m going to attribute our political activism to Steve Fulmer, who was a political activist long before he came to us as a singer – a brilliant activist, a really great leader. So he really took that on, but toeing the line [of nonprofit status] we did not support candidates. But issues were fine, and so we tried to define that as we went along. We tried not to offend donors, and all the balancing acts of the different players. 

Sometimes people would say, Are we really going do this? And other people say No, we have to. So there’s always been a little bit of dissent when it comes to that sort of thing. But you know, we do what we gotta do. 

Yeah, I think at the time [of Measure 9] I remember that I really felt a call to action. I don’t think we talked about it as political activity at all. We didn’t really look at it like that. We thought, this is a threat, and we can sing to this, especially in places that are outside of Portland, where we really need to support. 

It’s carried on, in lots of ways. For instance, when the domestic partnership law was signed at the Capitol, we went down and sang at that ceremony. When Multnomah County recognized rights for LGBT people, similar thing, and we sang there. We sang at the opening of Pioneer Courthouse Square. We sang at the opening of the Convention Center. 

Just visibility, visibility, visibility! 

But one of the biggest things I think I would call activism was that we wanted to go places that needed our voice. An example is Pendleton. We went to Pendleton, probably in the late ‘90s. 

Initially, the entire city did not support it; we wanted to put up posters and nobody would do it. The mayor didn’t support it but we got a school. We went there and we had a great audience. They loved us.  

Several years later we came back. Most buildings now wanted us in their building, and advertised for us, and we had a bigger audience, and that just built and built. 

With that same issue of going to where we’re needed, we met the Beijing queer chorus in 2016 at the GALA Choruses network in Denver. There are 200 choruses in America in the GALA network. We have a festival  – it’s not it’s not a competition, “officially” [laughs] – about 7 to 9,000 singers from around the country. Beijing was there and when they perform [this is pre-COVID] they wear masks. But in Denver, they took off their masks, all except one. In their country they mask themselves mainly so their families didn’t find out. The Beijing chorus had never actually had a public concert. They would never announce it in public. It was on a WeChat Channel, and they would tell the time and place at the last minute, because the government could shut them down at any time. 

So we went to Beijing. We went to China for 10 days, and sang in four cities, Beijing, Xi’An, Suzhou, and Shanghai with full appreciative halls, almost all under age 30. They were surprised to see all ages and genders in our Chorus. They thanked us for being their role models, for showing that people could be gay and old and married.  

There was just an Asian musical festival held, with Hong Kong, Japan, and China. It was a Zoom event, and the Portland Gay Men’s Chorus was the only American chorus who appeared in that festival, singing in Chinese. 

So it is that level of impact that we consistently carry on. And I can’t wait to see what we do in the future! 

It’s the personal moments that make this journey so worthwhile, and I have many, many personal moments that I could share. To pick one that I think is representative – we did a commission called Brave Souls and Dreamers, an anti-war cantata written from the words of everyone from Gandhi to Jimmy Carter to a mother’s perspective about the cost of war. We were asked by the city of Portland to represent them at the tenth anniversary of 9/11 in New York City at St. John the Divine Cathedral. KGW was there, and showed it back here. It was a moment where national pride and the healing power of music conspired together. I just thought it was a brilliant example of the potential of coming together across lines of division. 

PGMC Changing with the Times

I think it’s exciting! I love to see fresh blood coming in, because it just shows you what the future is going to be like. And it’s exciting to see the evolution of things. Both Gary and I have been in for quite a while. I look out over the Chorus now, Gary, and I just see so many differences with the way it was before. It’s so different. But yet it’s so the same.  

Greg Friesen

GREG:

Certainly there are generational differences in how we perceive things, and certainly we Boomers are not always acknowledged for the history that we bring in and the openings that we’ve created. However, the openings that we’ve created are the openings we’ve created, whether it’s acknowledged or not right now or not. 

GARY:

Many of the founding members of other GALA choruses have left because they didn’t like the direction the new chorus membership is going, or something like that. I think Portland is a rare place in that we allow people to bring their differences, and then work with those differences. 

I know when PGMC first started taking members who were women, we lost several members because of it. However, we’ve had trans people as members from early on and people didn’t even know. I think our overarching thing was something Bob Mensel, our conductor of 26 years, said: Who are we, to discriminate? So all are welcome. 

I firmly believe in that; the only caveat was you had to believe in and work for our mission. 

To speak to the differences between the old and the new generations of Chorus members, we took a survey a couple of years ago, and we’re in the process of getting the results of a new survey. We just did it to kind of take the pulse of the Chorus. The older generation places a lot more value on the community part of it, for the socialness of it, for the brotherhood of it in a larger sense.  

For the younger generation, because there are just so many other things they’re involved in, a so much wider breadth of options, it’s less about the social part and more about social justice. 

For them, it’s about, where are we standing up? For instance, we now have a land acknowledgment at the at the beginning of every single concert, and it’s on our website. We came out with a statement about our position on Black Lives. We have a new Diversity and Equity policy that was spurred by a Native American stereotype that was used. That turned into a whole rethinking of how we deal with differences in the Chorus. That’s an ongoing, never-ending process. But it’s integral to who we are, and to our commitment to harmony. 

There’s an ongoing question about isn’t it time for us to change the name of the Chorus? There are some language issues. Certainly pronouns, the use of pronouns, out of the respect, and giving space to people who use different pronouns, and also letting people know what your pronouns are so that we don’t end up having to make assumptions about each other. That’s been an adjustment between the two generations; we give them options to put on their name tag and it’s now a field in our membership directory. 

And dealing with transitions has been interesting. A tenor can end up as a bass or vice versa, whichever way they’re going. And there are new rules about touching – there’s a lot less slapping each other on the ass than there was in the ‘80s – because personal boundaries are more respected, or at least there’s more conscious about them, with the younger generation. 

I think we’ll continue to see more difference, as we go along. 

Ultimately, we love to sing and we believe in the power of music to “uplift, honor & affirm all people.” 

Gary Coleman

Read our summary story, “Singing for Our Lives,” drawn from this conversation with Gary and Greg, and from Reid Vanderburgh’s memories as a founding member of the Portland Lesbian Choir who has sung with the Portland Gay Men’s Chorus since 2008.  

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20: Reid Vanderburgh Remembers

Nancy Vanderburgh was a founding member of the Portland Lesbian Choir, leaving the group in 1997 to pursue transition, becoming Reid Vanderburgh. Reid sang with Confluence: Willamette Valley LGBT Chorus, from 2001-2007, and has sung with the Portland Gay Men’s Chorus since 2008. This transcript of Reid’s recollections has been edited for clarity and length; Reid’s former name has been used with his permission.  

This transcript of No on 9 Remembered’s conversation with Reid has been edited for clarity and length. 

Photo by Linda Kliewer of PLC’s 1989 Seattle performance. “When the curtain went up, the Portland Gay Men’s Chorus had staked out the first three rows, and threw roses at us on the stage,” remembers Reid.

To set a little context, when we formed the Portland Lesbian Choir (PLC) in 1986, the Portland Gay Men’s Chorus (PGMC) was at that time six years old. They performed at a national choral event in Minneapolis where there was a women’s chorus, Calliope. PGMC heard this chorus, and they thought, We want one of those in our city! They came back totally jazzed at the idea that maybe they could help out with forming a women’s chorus here. One of the members of PGMC knew a woman named Cathryn Heron and planted the seed. She’d already had the idea, so it was kind of synergistic.  

The lesbian community being what it is, we (I’m using a “royal we” here, I wasn’t involved yet) said to PGMC, “Thank you for the idea. Now we’re going to go off and do it. Don’t try to take over the way that men always take over women’s things!” That was sort of the ethos that we were coming from. 

Cathryn put up a little 3 x 5 postcard on the bulletin board of A Woman’s Place bookstore in downtown Portland saying, let’s form a chorus! There were just four who showed up to the very first couple of meetings, and they thought, well, this is not enough advertising.  

The Lesbian Community Project held its first ever Lesbian Conference at Portland State University in October of that year and one of the people who’d been among those first four went and announced it at several workshops. The next time they met, there were maybe 20 people there, and I was one of those. So that was the beginning of the Choir. 

There wasn’t any such thing as the Oregon Citizens Alliance (OCA) in 1986, that we were aware of. So the Choir was very much a community focused organization. That was a time when, if you were a lesbian, you probably lived between southeast Hawthorne and Belmont, and 20th and 30th. That was why we called it the lesbian ghetto – which we wouldn’t call it today – but at that time, that’s what it was. 

Around 1986 people were starting to branch out a little bit, but not that much. At that time there was still a whole lot of separation between the gay men’s and lesbian communities. Most of the lesbians I knew were aware about AIDS, but it was like it was happening to those people over there. There were exceptions to that; there were a few people in the Choir who were social workers and folks like that, heavily involved in helping out with people who had AIDS. They lost a lot of friends and clients. For them it was more personal, but that was a small subset of those who were part of PLC at that time. 

Now, having sung with Portland Gay Men’s Chorus since 2008, I have a bit better perspective of what it must have been like during that time for them. They were constantly singing at memorial services for their own members; they sang at more memorial services during the ‘80s and ‘90s than they did concerts, by far. I realized a few years ago – it was a happy surprise – that in the time I’d been in PGMC, no one has died of an AIDS-related cause. People have died, but of things like Alzheimer’s or a heart attack.

One member said to me once, “You know, we never quite developed any systems to deal with people getting too old to perform and sing, because before this, they just always died.” What you do with someone who’s getting in their late 70s, and they really can’t do it anymore, but they still want to be part of the Chorus? That was never an issue in the ‘80s and ‘90s. 

With the Portland Lesbian Choir initially, it was very inwardly focused. My experience as a trans person transitioning in the ‘90s, I wasn’t on anybody’s radar. There’s a freedom in that because it meant that I could just go down my own path. Nobody was objecting. Nobody was holding up signs, saying, “No trans people in the bathroom” or anything like that. We were not on anyone’s radar to fuss about and in the ‘80s, I think it was a similar feeling in the lesbian community. 

I wouldn’t have characterized it that way then, but we could be inwardly focused because no one was targeting us. We weren’t yet on the radar to be targeted until 1988. And that’s when the governor’s executive order [banning discrimination against gay and lesbian people in executive branch employment] put us on the radar with the OCA. And that really did change everything. 

For PLC, the first time we ever performed outside Portland, was to go on road trips in protest of the ballot measures. 

I still remember on the first one we did we did with PGMC during one of the measures. We were on buses on that particular tour. We were given instructions that I imagine matched what the Freedom Riders were told back in the ‘60s: Don’t walk around by yourself. Don’t go out after dark. Don’t do anything in groups smaller than about four. Be really careful, be really vigilant; pay attention to your surroundings and who’s around you. We were given that instruction very explicitly. 

Reid Vanderburgh

I have a feeling that it was a similar instruction that would be given to the Freedom Riders, because the danger is from similar kinds of people, people who have these ideas of what certain kinds of people are like. They want nothing to do with those people; they want to restrict those people. In this case, it was the gay community that was targeted. 

Were there Choir members who opted out of the tour because of personal safety concerns? 

I don’t recall any one saying I’m not going to go because of safety reasons. It was probably other logistics, like with kids that they would have to leave behind, something like that. The group cohesiveness in the Choir and also in PGMC at that time was so powerful that people weren’t afraid for their individual safety, because we were a powerful group. 

Yeah, we had those people picketing in Coos Bay, but we way outnumbered them. We weren’t afraid of them.  

We were mad that they were there. They were trying to disrupt the concert by holding up their signs in the back of the auditorium, so that we could see the signs from the stage. The audience couldn’t see them, but we could. They were trying to disrupt us and disrupt our cohesion as a chorus, but it didn’t work. 

And the music itself changed some of them. They put their signs down and didn’t pick them back up. That really struck me at the time. I thought maybe we changed some votes with the people that were holding up the signs. 

Reid Vanderburgh

We were scheduled to perform in Medford, but finally gave up. Initially we had a space lined up. Then the folks associated with that space wanted to look at the lyrics of the songs we were going to perform; they took exception to the lyrics of “Everything Possible” –  

"You can be anybody that you want to be, you can love whomever you will. You can travel any country where your heart leads and know I will love you still. You can live by yourself, you can gather friends around, you can choose one special one. And the only measure of your words and your deeds is the love you leave behind when you're done."  

Basically it’s reassuring a small child you can be whoever you are. They thought that was a terrible message to send to a child, so they didn’t want us to sing that song. 

There was another performance where the concert was going to be in a theater, and somebody objected to the idea of saying Portland Gay Men’s Chorus and Portland Lesbian Choir on the marquee.  

They wanted the words Gay and Lesbian removed from the names of the choruses. You can imagine what the reaction was to that! Here we are in a campaign against Measure 9, and they want us to censor the name of the choruses!  

Well, that kind of proves the point of why the choruses were necessary. 

Was this the first time that the men’s and women’s choruses sang together?  

No, not at all. David York was the director of PGMC during the ‘80s – and talk about a bridge builder! He founded Concord Choirs, which was a family of choruses. There was a women’s chorus, Aurora. There was a men’s chorus named Satori that was non-auditioned. There was an auditioned mixed-chorus Concord Choir, and there may have been even other choirs within there. We had a children’s chorus. So he was trying to build bridges between all kinds of communities. 

When the PLC formed, the ties between the two choruses [with PGMC] were incredible. When PGMC had its tenth anniversary concert, they invited PLC for basically a joint concert. This was before PLC had a whole lot of administrative infrastructure and couldn’t really produce a joint concert. They really did all the work but gave us half the proceeds of the concert.  

The PLC went to its first gala choral festival in Seattle in 1989, in a big performance hall at the University of Washington. When the curtain went up for the PLC, the Portland Gay Men’s Chorus had staked out the first three rows, and threw roses at us on the stage. 

Being part of the PLC was incredibly powerful. Incredibly powerful. I found a journal entry of mine from 1986, in early October, where I was just beside myself, having found PLC. I thought, this day I did something extremely important for myself. That group gave me a reason to exist for the next 9 years, until I finally realized I was trans. The center of my life was that organization. 

It was the center of a lot of our lives. It was just the most important thing – because there’s something about choral singing. There’s a reason why it originated in churches in spiritual traditions, because there’s a huge power in converging on a single note in unison. It makes really overt, the interconnection between people. It’s so powerful. So to do that within a gay or a lesbian context, it just creates this huge sense of community that I’ve never found equaled in any other aspect of gay and lesbian community that I’ve participated in. And it spills over into the audience experience. So it brings the audience a glimpse of that same interconnection. 

I still remember on one of the tours, I sat down on the bus next to someone who was a new member. I got to chatting with her. She had left her husband and moved to Portland. They were a Mormon family. They were trying to track her down to bring her back into the fold because she’d gone astray, and I just thought, Oh, my God! That’s the importance the choir had for its members. 

With the OCA attack on our community, the choir members drew us even closer together, if that’s possible. In 1986 the focus was on developing a community thing so that we could be there for our community. In fact, the first tagline that the choir used was: We sing for you. I felt that with the audience, not just the people I was singing with. 

Reid Vanderburgh

I did not understand that I was trans at that time. I didn’t know that about myself. I just knew there was something fundamentally wrong, is how I put it. As I got older, it got harder and harder to cope with. 

I’m not the only person who was in the PLC who has transitioned, but I’m the only one that ended up joining PGMC. I was the first open transman to join the Chorus in 2008; there was at least one transman who sang in the chorus before that but he didn’t tell the director he was trans when he auditioned. In the mid ‘90s that would have been the way to do it. 

What we’re going through now [with the attacks on trans people and the LGBTQ community] – the same people have the same objections, and maybe their kids do, too, because they passed it on. So it’s never over, it just changes. There will always be people who are going to be marginalized to some degree or other. So don’t take anything for granted in terms of civil rights or social safety.

Read our summary story, “Singing for Our Lives,” drawn from this conversation with Reid and an interview with longtime Portland Gay Men’s Chorus members Gary Coleman and Greg Friesen.  

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24: Walk for Love & Justice

“You are out on the front line of our movement. This Walk is about moral and spiritual values. You are walking in the tradition of the civil rights movement. You are not alone – every one of the 25 million American gays, lesbians, and bisexuals marches with you today.”  

  ~ Urvashi Vaid (1958-2022), then executive director of the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force, at the kickoff rally for the Walk for Love & Justice  

With those words, a contingent of Oregonians set out on foot, from Eugene, Oregon. They would walk 150 miles north, ending their two-week sojourn in the embrace of the Portland Pride march. They walked from June 7-20, 1992 under the banner: “For Love and Justice: A Walk Against Hate.” 

The Walk for Love & Justice crosses the Burnside Bridge in Portland, completing a 150-mile pilgrimage.
Photo by Linda Kliewer. 

The Walk for Love & Justice proclaimed, “We will walk proudly and with purpose – taking the agenda out of the hands of the OCA and going directly to the people of Oregon, asking them to stand with us for justice and against hate.” 

Why are we walking? “The fundamental rights of lesbians and gays are under attack in Oregon from a right-wing group which we believe also threatens the rights of women, Jews, People of color, and the poor,” explained the bilingual fliers walkers carried to share with folks along the way. “We walk to build bridges and to promote an end to oppression and hatred in all of its forms including racism, sexism, homophobia and heterosexism.” 

How can you help? “Talk to us. Find out who we are. Join us for an evening program. Invite your friends. Don’t sign the OCA’s petition. Vote against bigotry in November. Contribute to the Walk. HUMAN RIGHTS ARE NOT SPECIAL RIGHTS. More than 100 organizations, churches and synagogues, your friends and neighbors, have made this walk possible. Why don’t you join them? Why don’t you join us?” 

Walking to Break Down Barriers

By the time Oregon faced the prospect of Ballot Measure 9, Anne Galisky says she “knew in my bones that long walks where you are vulnerable and exposed, where you depend on people for everything, for where to sleep at night, for every meal – that breaks down barriers all over the place.” 

She had grown up in California, participating with a direct aid organization that worked in Tijuana, that had a 250 mile walk every year. “As a high school student, it was a social justice awakening for me to see the incredible value of just going out on the road receiving hospitality, meeting all kinds of people you wouldn’t have met otherwise,” Anne says. “And physically learning that doing a little bit each day, you can go a long way.” 

Then in college she heard about a peace walk being planned from the Trident nuclear submarine base in Bangor, Washington to Washington, D.C. and then from Ireland to the occupied West Bank. “It was an absolutely life changing experience, as you can imagine,” Anne says.  

“It’s this really quick intimacy, partially based on the vulnerability of being on the edge of the road. I saw with my own eyes, walking through all these different places – including Northern Ireland, at the height of the Troubles, and Israel and the West Bank, and Yugoslavia just a few years before war broke out there – you could have so many meaningful conversations. I just knew that  a walk like this was a really valuable organizing tool.” 

Anne Galisky

And so Anne proposed a walk across Oregon to the Lesbian Community Project. After some skepticism and debate, the board agreed to serve as the project’s sponsor – but Anne would have to assume all the risk and do all the work. 

This was pre-internet, pre-email, pre-cell phone. Anne worked out of her attic bedroom on a borrowed typewriter, relying on the late-night discount at the neighborhood Kinkos for all her photocopying. 

In her broken-down pickup truck she drove up and down the Willamette Valley, “having meetings with people and saying, ‘We’re going to do this. Can we sleep on your floor? We could have anywhere from 20 to 100 people needing a place to stay. Can you feed us? Will you write a letter of endorsement?” 

One of the most important early meetings was with lesbians in Grants Pass. “They begged us not to have the walk go through Southern Oregon,” Anne says. “They told us, ‘If you do, someone will get killed.’” As she wrote in her post-event evaluation, “This meeting felt very valuable in terms of healing past wounds between Portland activists and southern Oregon rural lesbian and gay people. Listening to what rural activists need, instead of going in with a pre-set agenda, seems to be the way to go.” 

Another pivotal meeting was with Cipriano Ferrel of PCUN, Oregon’s farmworkers union. He said, “Yes, you can stay here. Of course, we need you to learn about us.” The rest, as they say, is history. (Read more in our story, PCUN Union Hall.) 

Not everyone was as open as PCUN. “There was so much fear,” Anne remembers.

“People who would say, ‘Yes, but we don’t want our name associated. You can sleep here but you can’t tell anyone.’ There was a lot of, ‘We don’t know what will happen to us if we help you.’ The feeling of the risks involved was very strong.” 

Anne Galisky

“There was also so much courage,” says Anne. “Courage of the people who hosted us, and courage of the people who walked with us.” 

While no one was harmed during the Walk, Anne says, “We did get death threats. We had stuff thrown at us. People screamed at us. When a car is slowing down, you don’t know what’s going to happen. Are they going to offer their support? Or are they going to shoot you?” 

The walkers were prepared. They were in touch every day with law enforcement. And they had spent a day together in non-violent de-escalation training before departing. “We weren’t going in with some naivete that nothing’s going to happen,” Anne remembers. “The premise was, something would happen. And how are we going to handle it?” 

Participant Ellen Goldberg’s response to the tension and danger still makes Anne laugh, 30 years later. “After having eggs thrown at us, she said, ‘You know I wanted eggs today, but I should have said I want eggs on a plate.’” 

Fun in the face of challenges: Linda Kliewer photo includes filmmaker Barbara Bernstein (Story #23) at center, and Walk coordinator Anne Galisky on the right. 

Hospitality as Social Change

The Walk for Love & Justice ended up being hosted, fed, or endorsed by more than 100 churches, synagogues, community organizations, and businesses. An exhaustive schedule of public programming along the route included appearances by elected officials, talks by state and national movement leaders, music, comedy, poetry readings, and rallies.  

In her event report Anne wrote, “involving so many organizations turned out to be an important political tool. There is something very disarming about giving food and lodging to strangers. Hospitality, especially by providing a meal, is not viewed as a big commitment, but once people have eaten together and have heard each other’s stories, relationships begin – and with that comes a stake in each other’s wellbeing.” 

A core group of about 20 walkers who did the full distance “helped with the feeling of continuity on the walk and did much of the leadership work,” Anne noted in her report. “However, people who walked for one or a few days made up the bulk of the numbers and provided some fresh energy.” As the Walk passed through larger population centers, it increased considerably in size, reaching the hundreds in its final miles into downtown Portland. 

Thousands more were exposed to the message of the Walk through the extensive media coverage it attracted. Anne described the coverage as “quite plentiful and generally very positive: front page coverage with color photographs in daily papers of Eugene, Corvallis, Salem; included in a front-page story on Pride in Portland; newspapers in Woodburn, Estacada, Canby and Olympia; Associated Press, New York Times, Los Angeles Times; Oregon radio, NPR and Pacifica; local TV + national news coverage on NBC and ABC.” 

The greatest lesson of the Walk, for Anne, is “that coming out changed everything. Allies had to choose. Queer folks had to choose. There was no neutral. The Measure 9 fight gave us an advantage in creating progressive institutions going forward, because we had accomplished something really hard by creating relationships with allies.”  

“I went on the walk because I needed to do something… more than simply write letters. I needed to do something with my body. Something positive. Something transforming. I was transformed. I went believing that we are not supported by the vast majority of Oregonians. I learned the opposite! I learned that we have so many friends, if we only will reach out and express our need for support.”

The Rev. Marguerite Scroggie in The Lavender Connection

One Walker’s Story

Kelley Weigel was already deeply involved in the fight against the OCA but had to be talked into going on the Walk. She and Eric Ward were on the staff of the Community Alliance of Lane County (CALC – originally Clergy & Laity Concerned) based in Eugene, a liberal college town, that bordered the more conservative Springfield. Springfield was targeted by the OCA as a testing ground for their anti-gay ballot measures. They had succeeded in placing a local version of the statewide measure on the May 19 primary ballot. 

As the secretary for the Lane County No on 9 organization, Kelley was putting all her effort into defeating the local measure and “didn’t see the point” of taking two weeks to walk to Portland. But CALC had signed on to support the Walk and its Eugene kickoff. Eric felt strongly that someone from their team needed to go. The BIPOC members of the staff didn’t see themselves walking down Oregon’s back roads. And then an out lesbian on the CALC board made her appeal to Kelley even more personal. 

“She said, ‘You need you do this for me, because I can’t go’,” Kelley remembers. The board member was older, didn’t feel safe, and had to work. 

Kelley got to go on paid work time. But, like all walkers, she was asked to raise contributions to cover costs. (Read her fundraising letter.) Her largest donation came from an unexpected source. 

The day after the primary election, when a majority of Springfield voters approved the OCA’s local anti-gay measure, “there was a vigil at City Hall to mourn what happened,” Kelley remembers. “I’d been working really hard to defeat it, and I was crying. My picture ended up on the front page of the Eugene Register Guard – this young white girl, crying. The headline was, ‘Discriminatory measure passes Springfield.’ 

“Somehow my grandma and grandpa got a copy of that paper. They sent me $200 to go on the Walk. I had to raise $300. It wasn’t that much, but it was a lot for me and I didn’t know where it was going to come from. My grandma said, ‘We know how much this means to you, and so we want you to be able to go do it.’ I cry today just thinking about it. So I had everybody kind of pushing me to go.” 

Kelley Weigel

Despite her initial skepticism about the Walk, Kelley looks back at the experience as “pretty profound – the walk serving as something of a pilgrimage to think about the things that need to change, and to make the space for that to happen, in a way that’s different from a march that lasts a few hours. 

“It’s about creating an intentional community and the ways people can live in community, even if they don’t get along all the time. It was also about the basic needs that people have, making sure you have good organization and logistics so that those needs are met.” 

It was also about having fun in challenging circumstances. “We sang the song ‘We are a gentle, angry people, about a billion times,” Kelley says. “Many of us joked at the end, that if we ever sang it again we’d have to change the lyrics, because how we really feel is, ‘We are fucking angry people!’” 

On a more serious note, the Walk underscored “the importance of really being out, being visible for what you believe,” Kelley says, as a straight ally – and the courage that takes, “not knowing what’s going to be coming down the street at you, quite literally.” 

After completing the Walk, Kelley recalled the trepidation she’d felt before it started. “I wondered how smart it was to walk through the heart of Oregon, challenging people’s ideas about gays and lesbians,” she wrote. But after the all-day non-violence training walkers participated in before setting off, “I realized I was with a group of people I could trust, and when I felt scared or angry, there would be someone there to help me get through that time.” 

While Kelley doesn’t remember having any persuasive conversations with undecided or pro-OCA people along the Walk, she got a foretaste of the value of the “solidarity and connection with isolated pockets of people who, in their own communities, felt afraid to speak up against bigotry” that would become the signature “ROP thing.” (Kelley was co-director of the Rural Organizing Project from 1994-2002 before working at Western States Center for 15 years, including serving as its first female executive director.) 

Last Days in the Service of his Values 

One of the walkers who joined for a three-day stretch from Corvallis to Salem was a 78 year-old man named Isadore who had spent his life showing up for human rights.  

Creating an intentional community: Linda Kliewer photo includes Isadore at the back of the circle and Kelley Weigel in the poncho at front left. 

In her report to her donors, Kelley described Isadore dancing along with a dozen other seniors at the Polk County Fairgrounds where walkers were serenaded by a song composed by their local hosts to the tune of “Onward Christian Soldiers” – “Walk for Love and Justice/ Walk in truth and pride/ We will walk together/ People side by side.” 

“Inspiration has never had such concrete meaning,” Kelley wrote of that night with Isadore and their elder hosts.  

After walking into Salem the next day, Isadore left the walkers at the rally, assuring them in a phone call that he was not feeling too well, but had had a great time and wished them well. They learned later that he had a fatal heart attack. The nurse who attended him said that he was glad he had gone on the walk, and he would do it again, even if it cost him his life. 

“I hope my last days are spent in such a way,” Kelley says.

Linda Kliewer photo. 

Learn More

  • Watch Anne Galisky and Ramón Ramírez reflect on the impact of PCUN’s hosting the Walk for Love & Justice as panelists at the GLAPN event, “Lessons of Measure 9,” also featuring Kathleen Saadat and No on 9 Remembered Senior Fellow Holly Pruett. 
  • Read more of Ramón Ramírez’s recollections about the impact of the Walk in our story, PCUN Union Hall. 
  • View footage from the Walk in the feature documentary Ballot Measure 9. 
  • Check out pdfs of archival materials from the walk: statement from Walk Coordinator Anne Galisky; fundraising pitch letter from walker Kelley Weigel; Walk registration brochure; Join Us flier (bilingual); Daily Itinerary; Public Program Schedule; Eugene kickoff flier; Salem rally flier; Walk song sheets. 
  • Walk for Love & Justice Nonviolence Guidelines – For the purpose of building trust and a common foundation for safety, participants in the Walk are asked to agree to the following: 
    • Our attitude will be one of openness, friendliness, and respect toward all people we encounter. 
    • We will use no violence, verbal or physical, toward any person, even in the face of hostility. 
    • We will not damage any property. 
    • We will not bring or use drugs or alcohol other than for medical purposes. 
    • There will be no nudity during the walk, and everyone will keep their shirts on. 
    • We will carry no weapons. 
    • We will break no laws. 
    • We will cooperate with the police and Walk security team to ensure the safety of all participants and spectators. 
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23: Educational Outreach

“Teaching people to just think about it,” was the heart of the work, Anne Sweet says. “Helping them to make a personal connection, how Measure 9 would negatively impact them if this passed. This is your uncle; your bull dyke neighbor who mows your lawn and fixes your car for free; your son who we all know is gay but we pretend they aren’t.” 

Anne was one of the hundreds engaged in educational outreach both inside and outside their own communities, who helped to defeat Measure 9. 

Click to play excerpt from the 20-minute video Fighting for Our Lives, used with permission, in which Elise Self personalizes the stakes of the measure by talking about her fears for her daughter. 

The No on 9 message was delivered via all the pre-internet electoral methods – through television and radio ads; newspaper editorials, Op Eds, and letters to the editor; in debates and voters forums hosted by civic groups and news organizations; via visibility materials like lawn signs and bumper stickers; and through a methodical voter contact program that identified No voters through phone and door to door canvassing and then turned them out in a massive Get Out The Vote (GOTV) push.  

We’ll hear more in the coming months from inside the campaign. This month’s focus is on the educational outreach that originated outside the “official” campaign. Some of this focused on the queer community itself, from teaching nonviolent communications skills to unlearning racism; other efforts focused externally on specific sectors. Some created organizing tools –videos, speaker trainings, fact sheets; even events to build bridges, like the Walk for Love & Justice. 

New organizations sprang up as vehicles for those who wanted to take a different approach to the entire campaign – No on Hate, for example, which had several chapters around the state. Others were created to focus on a particular strategy or audience such as People of Faith Against Bigotry, African Americans Voting No on 9, Eugene-based OUTPAC, and the Oregon Speak Out Project. Some initiatives, like the extensive organizing within the labor movement, and the Oregon Democracy Project which gave rise to the Rural Organizing Project, tapped into the skills and relationships of existing organizations.  

These efforts, looking back, are many flowers blooming, a profusion of creativity and commitment that collectively reached thousands of Oregonians, solidifying No votes and in some cases, changing hearts and minds. But at the time, some of this work was driven by desperation and fear. Some arose as an alternative to – even a critique of – what was called “the mainstream campaign.”   

“It was a very scary time – as much for the fear that the Oregon Citizens Alliance was engendering; but also, I think the way that we responded exacerbated the fear. A lot of us were envisioning Nazi Germany all over again. In a way we really overreacted to the situation and took it out on each other.” 

Radio & video producer Barbara Bernstein

Some of the division within the LGBTQ community, and the fear, was driven by the loss on Measure 8, the first statewide campaign against a ballot measure sponsored by the Oregon Citizens Alliance (OCA). “People were so determined not to make the same mistakes that we made in 1988, when we lost that first anti-gay initiative,” Barbara says. That meant fierce and frequent debates about campaign messages, messengers, tactics, and spending priorities. 

Fighting for Our Lives

Barbara Bernstein and Elaine Velasquez knew they would step into the fray from the first moment they heard about the ballot measure. Barbara secured funding to do a radio documentary on Measure 9, and Elaine was hired to produce a segment about the campaign for a group in New York doing a series on gay issues. They captured some incredible footage, for example on the Walk for Love & Justice, before ending the contractual relationship with the series sponsor. Soon after, another guy in New York stepped up with a “nice chunk of funding,” Barbara remembers, which allowed them to keep the cameras and audio recording rolling. 

The result was the 20 minute video, Fighting for Our Lives, designed to counter the poisonous propaganda videos being circulated by the OCA. Marcy Westerling, who was mobilizing the statewide network of battered women’s shelters and rape hotlines through the Oregon Democracy Project, helped Elaine and Barbara develop their strategy and introduced them to several strong interview subjects.  

“Marcy sat down with us and talked about what was needed,” says Barbara. “‘You need to interview Mr. and Mrs. America,’ she said, so she introduced us to Jim and Elise Self in Grants Pass. Jim and Elise laughed later that they didn’t really think of themselves as Mr. and Mrs. America! But they came across as people that America could understand.  

“We thought a lot about how to connect with people who don’t get this, who think it doesn’t affect their lives. Elaine has this incredible skill in getting people to be really personal, getting people to tell their own stories. One of the most powerful moments is when Elise Self talks about how she was afraid that her daughter Jennifer would be discriminated against, and fights back tears.” 

Barbara Bernstein

“It provided information that people needed to have, says Barbara. “But it provided it in a context where they could really relate to it, and then have the follow up discussions. The reason it got out so well, was because the organizers knew how to use it. I felt like we got amazing support from the community to do this piece.” 

The video received an unexpected boost when Barbara and Elaine released it with a news conference that – unbeknownst to them – “turned out to be on the same day that the OCA released their infamous video, the Gay Agenda. The news coverage depicted them as dueling videos. They shared a clip from our video and a clip from the Gay Agenda,” Barbara remembers. 

Described by the Los Angeles Times as a “slick, professional tape… that features nudity, public lasciviousness and assertions that homosexuality is unnatural, a sickness and not worthy of legal protection,” the nationally-produced Gay Agenda was subsequently used in other efforts to solidify anti-LGBTQ discrimination in local, state, and national policy and law. 

“When we got ahold of a copy of the Gay Agenda, it frightened us,” Barbara says. “It was so slick, and it was really an excellent propaganda piece.” 

Even up against such hateful propaganda, Barbara remembers the years fighting the OCA as an “incredible blossoming of grassroots activism. It was really amazing to see how the word got out to such a wide community. It became very unacceptable [to openly support Measure 9] in lots of parts of Oregon, including places that we might not have expected. I remember at one point early on in the campaign I said to people, if only we had as many No on 9 signs on cars and houses, as there are ‘Go Blazers’ signs. And it ended up, we had more!” 

Making a Personal Connection

Countless Oregonians stepped out of their comfort zones to make the kind of personal connection that was fostered by the Fighting for Our Lives video. 

Anne Sweet – a union activist with Communications Workers of America who had her employer, the phone company, loan her to the No on 9 campaign – dove into these conversations directly, and also led trainings in making connections – not just between people, but among forms of oppression. 

In addition to co-leading antiracism workshops through No on Hate, Anne worked with No on 9 door-to-door canvass volunteers. “Canvassing attracted lots of young, white gay and lesbian people,” Anne remembers, “and a lot of the canvassing happened in the Black community. We would have classes on how to behave in the Black community. For white kids, it isn’t, ‘Hi Betty!’ It’s, ‘Mrs. Jones, how are you today?’ – helping to dilute the social entitlement that persists in racism.  

“I did the same thing in Black communities and organizations to remind Black people that when we say ‘gay and lesbian’ the picture we get is white – but remember that’s not true. When they throw out the gay and lesbian people, that’s your brother, uncle, cousin we’re talking about.  

“Antoinette Edwards, her husband and I were canvassing the beauty shops and barber shops. This woman went on a tirade [against gay people] and the person doing her hair was flaming gay, begging us silently not to confront her and out him. But trying to interrupt that woman who felt very entitled to say those things; wanting her to remember when he can’t get a license to do your hair or open a beauty shop [if Measure 9 passed], he can’t do your hair anymore.” 

Read more of Anne’s recollections. 

Oregon Speak Out Project

Other efforts focused less on personal relationships and more on making a factual case against the measure to groups of people. The Oregon Speak Out Project was founded by gay attorney Ed Reeves with the vision of training 25 attorneys (gay and straight) as speakers. “I personally felt that I could not survive this unless I stood up for myself and spoke positively about myself and my community,” he told Pat Young in her master’s thesis research.  

Their first task was generating invitations from host organizations. Initially, according to Pat, they “concentrated on Clackamas and Washington counties because of the number of ‘middle voters’ in those counties, and because the project wanted to reach beyond the friendly territory of Multnomah County. As time went on, the project expanded into outlying communities such as Bend, Klamath Falls, Medford, and Coos Bay…. Eventually the project generated over 150 speaking engagements and over 20 [speakers] training sessions, reaching thousands of Oregonians.” 

As documented by Pat, “the project put together packets of information for people speaking on the issues. The packets contained questions and appropriate answers to main issues surrounding the measure, such as how it affected libraries, schools, employment, and democracy.” 

Coalition for Human Dignity

Coalition for Human Dignity (CHD) had already been tracking the activities of, and assembling information to refute, the right in Oregon for several years. They described their role in civil rights education and research as “monitoring and opposing bigotry in all of its many forms, working to counter the agenda of the white supremacist moment and the Christian Right.” 

The documentary podcast “It Did Happen Here” revisits CHD’s origins as “Portlanders who came together in response to neo-Nazi violence after the 1988 murder of Mulugeta Seraw” to its eventual move to Seattle and merger with Northwest Coalition Against Malicious Harassment. 

As one of the groups whose No on 9 work was supported through Western States Center in the Oregon Democracy Project, CHD contributed to the formation of the Rural Organizing Project through road trips with Marcy, and produced a range of research and materials. 

One of their efforts was organizing a series of research papers and educational pamphlets that made the case for specific constituencies, like “Facts Environmentalists Should Know About the OCA.” Tarso Luís Ramos commissioned and edited some of this work while serving as editor of the leftist newspaper The Portland Alliance.

Tarso recalls, “The newspaper sublet space to CHD and collaborated on various things. We each saw that the OCA was trying to build statewide power by vilifying an already widely-stigmatized group and we feared this strategy could leave the LGBTQ community isolated.” He adds, “CHD co-founder and No On 9 organizer Scot Nakagawa asked me to help broaden the resistance by revealing the OCA’s broader reactionary agenda and giving various organized progressive constituencies information that could sway their members.”

The pamphlets presented the OCA as a “comprehensive political organization” whose rising influence threatened various communities and values, including women’s equality, religious freedom, communities of color, labor unions, economic fairness, and environmental protections.

Some of these targeted arguments appeared in a special edition of the CHD journal, The Oregon Witness, including “Traditional Family Values and the War on Women” by No on 9 Remembered author Holly Pruett (read it here.) 

The “Bigots, Ballots & Bibles: The OCA & the Christian Right” edition of The Oregon Witness also included: “An Introduction to the Politics of Fear” by Jeannette Pai-Espinosa; in-depth analysis of the OCA and their national connections by Scot Nakagawa, Sara Diamond, Steve Gardiner, and People for the America Way; discussion of the OCA as backlash to inclusive democracy and the gains of feminism and the civil rights movements by Suzanne Pharr, Johanna Brenner, and Inga Sorenson; a Christian and a Jewish perspective from People of Faith Against Bigotry; a “Case Study in Rural Organizing by Marcy Westerling; and “Oil & Water Do Not Mix! The OCA & the African-American Community” by Cecil Prescod. 

Tarso continued working on the pamphlets after joining the staff of Western States Center in May, 1992. He remembers that WSC paid to mail pamphlets to thousands of union members and later funded CHD to produce a multi-state report on the Christian Right

Of the background research papers Ramos says, “Some were roughly written and never published, but nonetheless provided many of the talking points for the pamphlets as well as material that was repurposed for articles and speaking engagements, organizing meetings, and outreach for organizational endorsements.”

The research and analysis assembled as part of the No on 9 fight later reached a wider audience of organizers and funders through efforts like the NGLTF Fight the Right Action Kit; a “live chat” about anti-gay initiatives Scot hosted on AOL (some of the very first “streaming” content); and the “When Democracy Works Resource Guide” that Scot narrated which included Eric K. Ward, by then with Northwest Coalition Against Malicious Harassment, and others who came out of the No on 9 campaign. “These broader movement tools leveraged the talents and lessons from Oregon for people in every sector who were standing up,” Tarso remembers.  

One of the lessons Tarso thinks we need to take from that time is, “You have to respect your opponents.” For Tarso that involves going beyond denunciation. “We had to understand their strategy well enough to out-organize them.”

“In Oregon we built a broad coalition that ranged from moderate Republicans to anti-racist skinheads. Thirty years later, the No On 9 fight holds important lessons for progressive organizers nationwide.”

Tarso Luís Ramos

Tarso Luís Ramos left Western States Center to join Political Research Associates in 2006, currently serving as their executive director. Access PRA’s current educational resources on Anti-LGBTQ Organizing. 

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